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		By: [No] Freedom Of Expression In Pakistan &#124; Abdullah Nizamani		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2014 14:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Ahsan khan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2014 14:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brother tell me what are the laws for freedom of speech that are followed in pakistan]]></description>
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		By: Abdullah Nizamani		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abdullah Nizamani]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2014 10:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://laaltain.pk/no-freedom-of-expression-in-pakistan/#comment-2338&quot;&gt;Aamna Hassan Fasihi&lt;/a&gt;.

@Aamna I am glad to read your comment. To start, you might be aware that some of the political parties have a system of surveillance whereby they regularly check what is being said and written either against or for them. To me it is enough to establish its causing serious security threat to the users of social media sites who are critic of those parties.
The latest reported case of the kind is Ali Kamran Chishti (AK Chishti) who is a journalist and he published this blog http://akchishti.blogspot.com/2013/07/mqms-labyrinth.html which resulted in his abduction and severe beating. Please see the links below;

http://www.cpj.org/blog/2013/09/chishti-abducted-beaten-challenge-for-pakistan.php

http://www.cpj.org/blog/Kidnapping%20Ordeal.Chishti.pdf

More or less was the case of Jasmeen Manzoor who dared to speak later on about her ordeal. Please see the link below;

http://jasmeen2013.blogspot.com/2013/08/truth-behind-my-silence.html

Another case of speaking in Karachi was of Shoaib Burney, reporter associated with Geo Network. His only guilt was, he covered certain news and he had the guts to speak bluntly. See the link below;

http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/pakistan-minister-threatens-to-kill-geo-news-reporter/816489/

So it was a bit of Karachi. Now let me come to other sacred cows that are immune from criticism. The famous case of Saleem Shahzad is not very old to remember. His story in Asia Times Online ended him up initially missing and then dead. See link below;

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/31/missing-pakistan-journalist-found-dead

Like Saleem Shahzad, Umar Cheema was also left to die but he somehow survived. His only crime was being critical of a State institution. See link;

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/world/asia/25cheema.html?_r=0

As I mentioned in my article the assassination of Salman Taseer is the worst case of intolerance. I may refer, he was killed for only he said the Hudood Laws as Kaale Qanoon. See link;

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-12111831

The only point I tried to make in the article was the growing intolerance shown towards certain issues and some individuals, which is a serious violation of freedom of expression as guaranteed by the Constitution.

Dr Hoodbhoy addressing a session at KLF is exceptional in the current situation because he must have been invited by the KLF administration to address the festival. He has not been so critical on religious or political issues with full of his openness. I wish and pray he does not meet the same fate as of already ousted.

After all who torched the Church in Peshawar and Dharshala in Larkana and Hyderabad? The one who have majority of sympathy from us (Muslims) and are deemed as saviors of Islam.

When Muslim is a second citizen, non Muslim is way behind them. Your point says it all. 

I am again very thankful of your feedback. I hope I have replied the questions you raised.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://laaltain.pk/no-freedom-of-expression-in-pakistan/#comment-2338">Aamna Hassan Fasihi</a>.</p>
<p>@Aamna I am glad to read your comment. To start, you might be aware that some of the political parties have a system of surveillance whereby they regularly check what is being said and written either against or for them. To me it is enough to establish its causing serious security threat to the users of social media sites who are critic of those parties.<br>
The latest reported case of the kind is Ali Kamran Chishti (AK Chishti) who is a journalist and he published this blog <a href="http://akchishti.blogspot.com/2013/07/mqms-labyrinth.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://akchishti.blogspot.com/2013/07/mqms-labyrinth.html</a> which resulted in his abduction and severe beating. Please see the links below;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cpj.org/blog/2013/09/chishti-abducted-beaten-challenge-for-pakistan.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cpj.org/blog/2013/09/chishti-abducted-beaten-challenge-for-pakistan.php</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cpj.org/blog/Kidnapping%20Ordeal.Chishti.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cpj.org/blog/Kidnapping%20Ordeal.Chishti.pdf</a></p>
<p>More or less was the case of Jasmeen Manzoor who dared to speak later on about her ordeal. Please see the link below;</p>
<p><a href="http://jasmeen2013.blogspot.com/2013/08/truth-behind-my-silence.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://jasmeen2013.blogspot.com/2013/08/truth-behind-my-silence.html</a></p>
<p>Another case of speaking in Karachi was of Shoaib Burney, reporter associated with Geo Network. His only guilt was, he covered certain news and he had the guts to speak bluntly. See the link below;</p>
<p><a href="http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/pakistan-minister-threatens-to-kill-geo-news-reporter/816489/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/pakistan-minister-threatens-to-kill-geo-news-reporter/816489/</a></p>
<p>So it was a bit of Karachi. Now let me come to other sacred cows that are immune from criticism. The famous case of Saleem Shahzad is not very old to remember. His story in Asia Times Online ended him up initially missing and then dead. See link below;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/31/missing-pakistan-journalist-found-dead" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/31/missing-pakistan-journalist-found-dead</a></p>
<p>Like Saleem Shahzad, Umar Cheema was also left to die but he somehow survived. His only crime was being critical of a State institution. See link;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/world/asia/25cheema.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/world/asia/25cheema.html?_r=0</a></p>
<p>As I mentioned in my article the assassination of Salman Taseer is the worst case of intolerance. I may refer, he was killed for only he said the Hudood Laws as Kaale Qanoon. See link;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-12111831" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-12111831</a></p>
<p>The only point I tried to make in the article was the growing intolerance shown towards certain issues and some individuals, which is a serious violation of freedom of expression as guaranteed by the Constitution.</p>
<p>Dr Hoodbhoy addressing a session at KLF is exceptional in the current situation because he must have been invited by the KLF administration to address the festival. He has not been so critical on religious or political issues with full of his openness. I wish and pray he does not meet the same fate as of already ousted.</p>
<p>After all who torched the Church in Peshawar and Dharshala in Larkana and Hyderabad? The one who have majority of sympathy from us (Muslims) and are deemed as saviors of Islam.</p>
<p>When Muslim is a second citizen, non Muslim is way behind them. Your point says it all. </p>
<p>I am again very thankful of your feedback. I hope I have replied the questions you raised.</p>
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		By: Aamna Hassan Fasihi		</title>
		<link>https://laaltain.pk/no-freedom-of-expression-in-pakistan/#comment-2338</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;&#039;Still, a user living in Karachi simply cannot openly and fearlessly express his political opinion against a certain political party&#039;&#039; 
I am myself a Karachiite and strong critic of &#039;that&#039; political party. I tweet against MQM, speak against MQM almost as easily as I can, about any other party. Things aren&#039;t that abysmal in Pakistan, first off. 

Like you point it out people have so many fora to express themselves. Citizen journalism is the new hot thing and with that, camouflaging or distorting the facts has become impossible, let alone shutting up someone once for all. Thousands of freelancers run their blogs, even more than them tweet or post political views on Facebook, how many of them have been killed or threatened actually? And even if they have had any ruthless opposition, how more relentless has that opposition been than branding the blogger as Taliban Apologist or a Liberal Fascist. 

Once again, it all came down to that one blasphemy law. You are right that in Pakistan, one cannot speak about religious issues with Rationality. But, if the society was so intolerant to such &#039;rational&#039; people, you wouldn&#039;t have seen Dr. Pervaiz Hoodbhoy addressing a session at KLF. An acquaintance of mine at IBA has his own circle of friends who proclaim to be Darwinists. Amazingly, they are all alive. 

&#039;&#039;Raising voice for the vulnerable and redressing the plight of fellow Pakistanis is treated as unforgiveable sin within the society if the fellow Pakistani is not a Muslim&#039;&#039; 
But, when a church was targeted in Peshawar, no one deemed Jindullah/Junud ul Hafsa to be justified in doing so. The very religious zealots whom we eye with suspicion just because they are acquiring education at a Madarrasah were the first ones to reach for help. 

&#039;&#039;Non-Muslims are becoming second class citizens of Pakistan&#039;&#039; 
I am sorry, excuse me. Am I a first class citizen of Pakistan enjoying endless perks and privileges?

Pakistan is changing fast. People are becoming more tolerant day by day as democratic practices proceed. Consensus is being built by all political parties on national issues. 

Now, allow me to exercise my freedom of speech and disagree with this article! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>”Still, a user living in Karachi simply cannot openly and fearlessly express his political opinion against a certain political party”<br>
I am myself a Karachiite and strong critic of ‘that’ political party. I tweet against MQM, speak against MQM almost as easily as I can, about any other party. Things aren’t that abysmal in Pakistan, first off. </p>
<p>Like you point it out people have so many fora to express themselves. Citizen journalism is the new hot thing and with that, camouflaging or distorting the facts has become impossible, let alone shutting up someone once for all. Thousands of freelancers run their blogs, even more than them tweet or post political views on Facebook, how many of them have been killed or threatened actually? And even if they have had any ruthless opposition, how more relentless has that opposition been than branding the blogger as Taliban Apologist or a Liberal Fascist. </p>
<p>Once again, it all came down to that one blasphemy law. You are right that in Pakistan, one cannot speak about religious issues with Rationality. But, if the society was so intolerant to such ‘rational’ people, you wouldn’t have seen Dr. Pervaiz Hoodbhoy addressing a session at KLF. An acquaintance of mine at IBA has his own circle of friends who proclaim to be Darwinists. Amazingly, they are all alive. </p>
<p>”Raising voice for the vulnerable and redressing the plight of fellow Pakistanis is treated as unforgiveable sin within the society if the fellow Pakistani is not a Muslim”<br>
But, when a church was targeted in Peshawar, no one deemed Jindullah/Junud ul Hafsa to be justified in doing so. The very religious zealots whom we eye with suspicion just because they are acquiring education at a Madarrasah were the first ones to reach for help. </p>
<p>”Non-Muslims are becoming second class citizens of Pakistan”<br>
I am sorry, excuse me. Am I a first class citizen of Pakistan enjoying endless perks and privileges?</p>
<p>Pakistan is changing fast. People are becoming more tolerant day by day as democratic practices proceed. Consensus is being built by all political parties on national issues. </p>
<p>Now, allow me to exercise my freedom of speech and disagree with this article! 🙂</p>
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